February 20, 2010

Listener Reactions

  1. Hi D.J.

    Love the new show.

    Ajita 11:53pm, 02/22/2010 #1
  2. This was an illuminating podcast, i have much to think about

    Miguelito 06:43pm, 02/23/2010 #2
  3. What a great episode!  I love Carol Tavris and the book Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me!  Read that book, people!

    Thanks for another great episode!  I look forward to the next one! smile

    Josh Hunt 11:08pm, 02/23/2010 #3
  4. Terrific discussion. This concept really helps me understand my own biases and those of others and why certain types of debates seem to get nowhere.

    Faith is not just “believing what you know ain’t so” (Mark Twain), it is the strength of the emotional commitment to a worldview that, if it weren’t true, would cause severe cognitive dissonance by the believer.

    Jonathan Morgan 06:42am, 02/24/2010 #4
  5. Great, love this show and similar shows…I can’t help a silly side comment though - anyone besides me get a little tired of the “public radio-style” opening music? Pointofinquiry was worse, but geeez people, let’s get something a bit more…energetic and cool! Something clubby, something electronic! Not this sort of “almost-peppy but rather sleepy jazz” type of stuff. Hehe, that’s my comment for now.

    Adrian 08:20am, 02/24/2010 #5
  6. Great interview! Highlight of my day. Keep up the good work.

    Chad 09:35pm, 02/24/2010 #6
  7. For what it’s worth, I like the theme music. It reminds me a little of the Penn & Teller’s Bullshit theme. It’s certainly more energized than the Point of Inquiry theme, which I confess I always found a little depressing. (Adrian may enjoy the much clubbier music for Skepticality - another must listen!)

    This was a terrific episode - and I will be adding Carol’s book to my reading list right away.

    Darryl 08:18am, 02/25/2010 #7
  8. Love the new show as much as the old one.  Carol’s interview was very insightful for someone like me who is not a psychologist.  Can’t wait for more…

    MartyM 05:42pm, 02/25/2010 #8
  9. I would like to congratulate D.J. and Carol on a great podcast. The podcast brought up many interesting topics. I think one of the most interesting, and often not discussed was the topic of the skeptic movement. As Carol said, skeptics should be questioned just as non-skeptics are questioned. The idea that a skeptic can’t admit to being wrong, makes that skeptic a cynic. The idea that skeptics don’t want to crticize other skeptics, is a bad idea and lends itself to the logical fallacy- inconsistency, and appeal to authority. I am a member of three skeptic groups and I have noticed a growing trend in committing the appeal to authority fallacy. Just because a famous skeptic said it doesn’t make it right. It is also imporant to distinguish between skilled and non-skilled skeptics. I am not so sure that that some skeptics understand this concept.

    Probably, almost every skeptic can admit that the skeptics beliefs should ultimately be based on evidence. Yet, some skeptics lack the skills to read the evidence. There is a huge difference between the strengths of evidence.  Citing a popular science mag article (which lacks references, and misrepresents the data)is not the same as evidence derived from a valid RCT cited in a peer review journal (which could still be unvalid). Epidemiological studies do not possess the strength of double blind randomized controlled trials. One study that implies evidence for a particular occcurence does not outweigh evidence of 10 well controlled studies finding contradictory evidence. Understanding research methodology is important for skeptics. Last spring I gave a lecture in Kansas City- Introduction to Skeptical thinking- to a group of Fitness professionals in Kansas City, and as I figured, the majority of them had no knowledge of basic logic or research methodolgy. I feel like this is the norm.

    To reiterate, skeptics should be questioned just like everyone else. Skeptics should lose the appeal to authority which seems to be happening quite often. Skeptics should also lose the mentality that they are smarter than everyone else.  This doesn’t help further their cause.

    On a final note, I am not sure how much of the nonsense perpetuated by Sylvia Browne is due to cognitive dissonance, and how much is due to her decison to willingly lie at all costs, if it makes her a few more bucks. Wonder why she has failed to take Randi up on his one million dollar challenge? Wonder why Montel continues to promote Browne? The following quote is from the Stop Sylvia Browne website, “On February 6 2007, Lt. Colonel Hal Bidlack (Ret) mailed a letter to Montel Williams, asking him some serious questions regarding Williams’ continued support of Sylvia Browne.” http://stopsylvia.com/articles/montelresponsetoopenletter.shtml

    After listening to this podcast I immediately ordered the book.

    Thanks,
    J Hale  

    jamie hale 02:21pm, 02/26/2010 #9
  10. Thank you for this wonderful episode.  I just bought the book.  This topic explains both my recent change from fundamentalist christian to atheist, and also why I have such problems in relationships when I freely admit when I am wrong because I think of myself as a NON-expert in relationships, but that I don’t understand why my partners refuse to admit when they are wrong when the evidence clearly points out that they are.  I look forward to admitting that I am wrong more often in other venues, as well as meeting people who are willing to admit that they are wrong in relationships. 

    AC 12:10am, 02/27/2010 #10
  11. What a great series of episodes so far!  Keep it up.  Also, I like the theme music.  The reason it sounds like the Penn and Teller theme is because it’s composed by the same guy!

    Emerson 07:21pm, 02/28/2010 #11
  12. What a truly excellent podcast. Carol is a very natural communicator, and I really feel I’ve learned something from this episode. I hope her book is an unmitigated success. It’s important that we learn to recognise cognitive dissonance within ourselves, just as much as noticing it in others.

    The podcast explains so much! I wish Carol the very best in her speech at TAM 8 later in the year.

    Colm Ryan 04:35am, 03/03/2010 #12
  13. DJ,

    Love the new show.  Great interviews and discussion as always.

    I especially loved this discussion.

    Keep up the good work!

    Carl Storm 02:53pm, 03/03/2010 #13
  14. Nice work! For Tavris fans
    D.J. also interviewed Tavris for Point of Inquiry (8/3/2007)
    http://www.pointofinquiry.org/carol_tavris_mistakes_were_made/

    It was popular
    http://www.centerforinquiry.net/forums/viewthread/2773/#17754

    Jackson 05:07am, 03/04/2010 #14
  15. This is one of the best discussions I’ve found about self-deception. I listened for the second time, today and have shared it once again with friends.


    Your points regarding the attitudes of skeptics and non-skeptics alike are well taken. Without an inquiring mind, open to new evidence, we are more or less lost.

    Ms. Tavris’ suggestions regarding how to approach others without engaging a specific dissonance, is quite helpful. I have been trying various methods of approach, and her ideas do seem to be the most useful I have found thus far.

    Karen 12:36pm, 03/10/2010 #15
  16. Great podcast!
    Great episode!
    Great interview!

    D.J. Central Europe is listening too! wink
    Greetings from Poland!

    I wish some of you people come to Poland some day for some wise, intelligent conference!

    Thanks for great work.

    Q

    Qayin 11:32am, 03/12/2010 #16
  17. I blogged extensively on this episode, and I’d welcome any thoughts. http://skepticalrationalist.blogspot.com/2010/03/on-cognitive-dissonance.html

    Well done and literally thought provoking!  I’m loving the book.

    Skeptical Rationalist 03:28pm, 03/23/2010 #17
  18. Great podcast.  I have been thinking along similar lines, but you managed to distill, clarify, and explain the hypothesis in extraordinary detail.  Very nicely done.

    Andrew Skegg 03:18am, 03/24/2010 #18
  19. I loved the cast.  I bought the book.  I loved it.  Thanks For Good Reason.

    Kevin 03:51pm, 04/05/2010 #19
  20. I’m itching to buy the book, but the page isn’t available on your site.  :(

    Thank you for discussing this topic!  I especially like the point that belligerence isn’t the way to change minds.

    The Nerd 05:46pm, 04/27/2010 #20

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